Differences between the years of campers...and bed sizes

Post by **Alaskan** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:55 pm

1997-2000 electrical hook up....

The cord end is a twist-lock...that piece and the receptical on the van are both common marine related pieces.

Post by **skater** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:12 am

Alaskan wrote:1997-2000 electrical hook up....

Ohhhhhhh....that's nice!

sdmike · Post by **sdmike** » Mon May 19, 2008 12:44 pm

skater wrote:We should document the differences between the years. I'd like to write it up as an article when we get the information compiled, and add pictures. This is a long term project, obviously. Corrections, additional information, please post below! Everyone can contribute to this one.

1989 - 1999 - What changed?

Exterior, top:
In 1989 the top had two windows that were square.
In 1990 that changed to a single large window with rounded corners

In 1997 they shortened the front of the top.

Been in the market for a B190 for a couple of months now and trying to figure out which year I want to look for.... Does this mean that the actual bed/sleeping area was shortened as well? I know at least on the '93 (which is one I'm considering right now) the sleeping area over the cab was measured as 72" x 76". Wondering if this was shortened in '97....

Post by **skater** » Mon May 19, 2008 1:27 pm

sdmike wrote:
skater wrote:We should document the differences between the years. I'd like to write it up as an article when we get the information compiled, and add pictures. This is a long term project, obviously. Corrections, additional information, please post below! Everyone can contribute to this one.

1989 - 1999 - What changed?

Exterior, top:
In 1989 the top had two windows that were square.
In 1990 that changed to a single large window with rounded corners

In 1997 they shortened the front of the top.
Been in the market for a B190 for a couple of months now and trying to figure out which year I want to look for.... Does this mean that the actual bed/sleeping area was shortened as well? I know at least on the '93 (which is one I'm considering right now) the sleeping area over the cab was measured as 72" x 76". Wondering if this was shortened in '97....

From what I've heard, it was not. If that's true, I'm not sure how they did it - the slide portion must be longer and the upper cabinets farther back. Hopefully someone with a '97 or later can chime in and help. (I've wondered the same thing.)

sdmike · Post by **sdmike** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:04 pm

skater wrote:
sdmike wrote:
skater wrote:We should document the differences between the years. I'd like to write it up as an article when we get the information compiled, and add pictures. This is a long term project, obviously. Corrections, additional information, please post below! Everyone can contribute to this one.

1989 - 1999 - What changed?

Exterior, top:
In 1989 the top had two windows that were square.
In 1990 that changed to a single large window with rounded corners

In 1997 they shortened the front of the top.
Been in the market for a B190 for a couple of months now and trying to figure out which year I want to look for.... Does this mean that the actual bed/sleeping area was shortened as well? I know at least on the '93 (which is one I'm considering right now) the sleeping area over the cab was measured as 72" x 76". Wondering if this was shortened in '97....
From what I've heard, it was not. If that's true, I'm not sure how they did it - the slide portion must be longer and the upper cabinets farther back. Hopefully someone with a '97 or later can chime in and help. (I've wondered the same thing.)

Well, if it wasn't then I'm back to square one as far as which year to look for!

Although I wonder if on the earlier models the view to the sky is blocked considerably having the upper cab there... Anyway, thanks for the info skater.

Post by **skater** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:30 pm

sdmike wrote:Well, if it wasn't then I'm back to square one as far as which year to look for! Although I wonder if on the earlier models the view to the sky is blocked considerably having the upper cab there... Anyway, thanks for the info skater.

While driving, you mean? There's some blockage, yeah, but on the other hand I've never needed the sun visors.

sdmike · Post by **sdmike** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:13 pm

skater wrote:
sdmike wrote:Well, if it wasn't then I'm back to square one as far as which year to look for! Although I wonder if on the earlier models the view to the sky is blocked considerably having the upper cab there... Anyway, thanks for the info skater.
While driving, you mean? There's some blockage, yeah, but on the other hand I've never needed the sun visors.

Haha! Good point! Has having the longer cab above you ever been an invonvenience for you?

Post by **skater** » Tue May 20, 2008 7:37 am

sdmike wrote: Haha! Good point! Has having the longer cab above you ever been an invonvenience for you?

Nope. It's actually kind of nice both for the sun thing and the fact that it keeps some rain off the windshield (you still need windshield wipers, but not as much). One downside: bugs get under the overhang and you just know they're going to splatter instead of going overhead as they sometimes do in cars.

If anything, it's kind of nice to have it there as a reminder that I'm driving a vehicle that's 10' tall.

sdmike · Post by **sdmike** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:10 pm

skater wrote:
sdmike wrote: Haha! Good point! Has having the longer cab above you ever been an invonvenience for you?
Nope. It's actually kind of nice both for the sun thing and the fact that it keeps some rain off the windshield (you still need windshield wipers, but not as much). One downside: bugs get under the overhang and you just know they're going to splatter instead of going overhead as they sometimes do in cars.

If anything, it's kind of nice to have it there as a reminder that I'm driving a vehicle that's 10' tall.

Good to know. Thanks for the info! Just bought myself a '93!! Now need to get it shipped from Florida to San Diego!

Post by **skater** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:21 am

sdmike wrote:Good to know. Thanks for the info! Just bought myself a '93!! Now need to get it shipped from Florida to San Diego!

Congratulations!

Post by **Alaskan** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:59 pm

Bed differences...

Lower (couch).... up to 1996

Length is 69 inches
Width is 36 inches
Gap at back against wall is 4 1/2 inches
Distance to cabinets when couch folded out is 10 inches

Lower...1997 thru year 2000

Length is 72 inches
Width is 37 inches
Gap at back against wall is 3 inches
Distance to cabinets when couch folded out is 10 inches

Upper....up to 1996

Width is 71 inches
Depth is 58 inches and up to 78 inch when expanded outward

Upper... 1997 thru year 2000

Width is 65 inches
Depth is 38 inches and up to 77 inches when expanded outward

bobbyv · Post by **bobbyv** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:58 am

Good morning, my 99 upper bed size is as follows, width 65", depth is 37" and up to 77" when expanded outward. Probably the same for 97 & 98.

RCR · Post by **RCR** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:35 pm

Bobbyv - are you sure about the 77" upper width when fully expanded? That varies from Alaskan's measurement of 55" max. If so, that is new information and should be noted.

bobbyv · Post by **bobbyv** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:45 pm

Hello RCR, Yes the dimensions are confirmed. From the drivers side to the passenger width is 65", from the front window rearward to the edge of the non-extended bed is 37", when fully extended from the front window rearward to the edge is right at 77". Hope this helps.

RCR · Post by **RCR** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:07 am

Thanks for the confirmation BobbyV. So then the extension is actually longer than the fixed portion by 3 inches. It must extend past the front of the fixed portion when stored?

That's good to know that there is no loss of length and the width is only 6 inches of loss...and that is made up for in a larger lower bed....my dw is always complaining about the large gap between the lower bed and wall...we actually bought one of those pool noodles to shove in there.

We are considering moving purchasing a newer model for the wet bath but have been hesitant because our family of
5 are already packed in pretty good as it is - we don't want to lose precious sleeping area.

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